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According to the report released on July 6th by Japan Oricon Chart, Tohoshinki’s single “Stand by U” which became the 2nd place before finally beating Japan idol Arashi and is crowned as the king of daily chart.

Released on July 1st on the same day as Tohoshinki, with more than 10,000 copies sold, Arashi was ranked first and Tohoshinki followed straight behind at second. However, thanks to the unfolding effect of Dome concert on July 4th and 5th, finally today Tohoshinki got his Daily Chart 1st.

SM Entertainment agency spokesperson said, “Today on Oricon Daily Chart, Tohoshinki is confirmed as No. 1. This is one opportunity to see how popular Tohoshinki in Japan.”

Tohoshinki’s single sales is rising to exceed 30,000 copies.

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What do you guys think about this??? 
Arashi should have got 1 week of number ones ne?

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Date: 2009-07-06 02:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darenothope.livejournal.com
It's not a big deal, right? It's one daily chart and Arashi has sold more than THSK anyway. Plus, it's not even the weekly chart.

I wonder though, if they'll still be one on the daily chart tomorrow.

Date: 2009-07-06 02:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acidae.livejournal.com
I don't really care, personally. Arashi's sales over the course of the week have also fluctuated a bit, they just don't have anything as big as a concert tour to affect it as much in terms of promotion; when their best of tour rolls around, I'm sure their album sales would rise too.

And, Stand by U is a good song anyway, so I'm happy for them. Not to mention even though DBSK's sales surpassed Arashi's on this particular day, they're still going to be first once the weekly rankings are out.

Date: 2009-07-06 02:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] legally-cutie.livejournal.com
Tohoshinki sure a big thread to our lovely Arashi ne..
Maybe it's just for today, but their fans are getting more and more.
I hope their sale will be no. 1 this week.
Their previous single sold well anyway..

Date: 2009-07-06 02:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mirei-22.livejournal.com
Congrats to Tohoshinki, although this was nothing to fret about, anyway :p
I'm glad Tohoshinki's fans were happy \o/
yup, weekly sales no. 1 will be Arashi, who now have surpassed the 300k mark.
Both fandoms were happy, yay \o/

Date: 2009-07-06 02:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dark-angel-1808.livejournal.com
I think it's totally unacceptable :(
We gotta go something for our boys :(
Even if for one day, I can't stand seeing them in #2, especially after some guy from Korean :(( If our Arashi ranked #2, after other JE, I can accept that. But SM's Tohoshinki !?! No way !

Date: 2009-07-06 02:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acidae.livejournal.com
Just curious, but why would you be able to accept Arashi taking #2 after another JE group but not DBSK? Simply because they're Korean? I mean in both scenarios, Arashi is still not in the #1 spot, and that's what you can't stand seeing, no?

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Date: 2009-07-06 02:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] delta150.livejournal.com
As long as they stay first for the week, I'm totally fine.
But apparently Tohoshinki is a good group so they deserve 1st for their opening day.

Date: 2009-07-06 02:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] happinessdome.livejournal.com
argh kuyashii >,<
it's just because of bad timing
I hope Arashi fans on Japan won't let Arashi being on 2nd place last any longer.
I kinda want to kick SM spokesperson for saying that xD

Date: 2009-07-06 02:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miduhyo.livejournal.com
wtf, why would you want to kick the sm spokesperson for saying that?

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Date: 2009-07-06 02:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] currycroquette.livejournal.com
Tohoshinki, all of them are very talented singers and they work hard at that craft so I think it's well deserved because of that.

While I like Arashi as entertainers, I don't think they need to or can debut singles at number 1 all the time. Now debuting their album at #1, that's something to aim for right? That's extremely hard to do.

Date: 2009-07-06 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Arashi have been debuting all their singles at number 1 for years now, they are not likely to stop anytime soon. Same goes for their albums, it's not something they need to 'aim' for anymore. Just saying. =/

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Date: 2009-07-06 02:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jessy-jay520.livejournal.com
anyway, I think the summary of Arashi's sale will be more than Tohoshinki's. Just one day, wait until the end of this week.

Date: 2009-07-06 02:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kari-rika-dm.livejournal.com
I don't mind that they beat Arashi on the charts. After all, it's unavoidable because of their Dome concert. It's good for DBSK and their fans and I'm happy for them. But I got kind of annoyed at some DBSK fans who were bashing Arashi for beating them in the charts for the first few days. I don't like the idea of those people who bashed Arashi being happy about DBSK being first. >>

Date: 2009-07-06 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hauntedcrew.livejournal.com
It's not a big deal. I don't see an issue, whether it is about them "beating" Arashi in the daily ranking today or if Arashi is going to get top for the weekly.

Congratulations to DBSK, really (: Good for them!

Date: 2009-07-06 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I think your source is more of a fan-news site more than a legitimate news site, thus how do we know if the spokeperson really said that and stuff like king of oricon ? it would be better if you actually just put a screenshot of the charts instead of the this so-called news article to prevent any heated arguements.

Date: 2009-07-06 02:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mirei-22.livejournal.com
Agreed :D and I also think Arashi fans should not think of this too seriously. Maybe this 'article' was just some biased opinion, a way to prove that Tohoshinki is doing good in Japan, but I don't think it will reflect negatively on Arashi in anyway, unless one would think otherwise.

So, let both fandoms be happy and peaceful..

Date: 2009-07-06 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dark-angel-1808.livejournal.com
Everything after 6 days released has ranked #7 in Orincon Yearly Ranking 2009 (till now) ^^ That's the power of "Storm" ne ;))
How high will "Everything" get? I'm really excited

Date: 2009-07-06 02:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] verodeninomiya.livejournal.com
I like both of them..so I'm glad they are beating Oricon chart at 1 and 2 places, I'm sure Arashi is glad with the success they have been having during this year and they comprehend that fans are a little poor right now after announced the tour, the Album and then the single...I'm not worried about their second place, I'm sure they will beat the charts with the 10th anniversary album :)!! So ganbatte Arashichan!

Date: 2009-07-06 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-dizzy.livejournal.com
Yay congrats DBSK!
I'm happy for both of them.

Date: 2009-07-06 02:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fseventh.livejournal.com
I'm their fans. Both of them. Just for you know, in their weekend Dome days, Tohoshinki sold special deluxe edition of Stand By U with many bonus on it. We all know how many fans come to Dome right? For 2 days... 100 K and they boost their sale through that.

I'm sad to say that SM shouldn't be the one who proud with that. Avex is the one who raise Tohoshinki until they are in their position now. It's ridiculuous statement from SM that even for me as their fan, kinda not really appropriate.

Tohoshinki sold until today more than 180 K copies and Arashi, I believe 320 K. Arashi fans shouldn't be bothered with that. It's a fair competition ^^

Date: 2009-07-06 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mihsayam.livejournal.com
It is fair competition. JE's been gaing ground because DBSK on M-Sta just proved that whatever conspiracy must be false, or had it been true, finally halted.

But we do have to admit that DBSK is pretty much the only non-JE boy group gaining momentum in Japan. It's only been half a year but their selling power increased by two-fold. To be frank, there's only two ways to go after this: better or worst sales. This could be their peak ability, or they'd break out like EXILE and have something more in store for us when they begin selling 500k-1M of albums.

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Date: 2009-07-06 02:42 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Arashi weekly sales: 320,000 approx
Tohoshinki: 180,000 approx

No competition there, people.

Date: 2009-07-06 02:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xkimchi-ninja.livejournal.com
I don't see this as a problem, seeing how I *think* DBSK is the only non-Johnny's band that is really big in Japan right now. Plus, they've been working really hard in Japan to earn this too.

Date: 2009-07-06 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
ILU for using Johnny's instead of JE.

Johnny's is the agency. JE is a recording label. So technically, Arashi is not a "JE group" since they belong to JStorm.

Date: 2009-07-06 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] matsu-saya.livejournal.com
It's not a big deal.. Arashi has both singles in the charts anyway.. DBSK deserve it, they work really hard in order to surpass japan's sale.. I don't really like dbsk but I know how korean singer esp from sm trained.

Date: 2009-07-06 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Seeing as how there's so much defending of DBSK in Arashi fandom (glad to see most people being rational over here),
it would be nice to see people defending Arashi in the DBSK and Kpop fandoms too. They (and JE/Jpop in general) get bashed there too often.

Date: 2009-07-06 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] verlorenlove.livejournal.com
yeah, i agree with you. the things they say about johnny's, especially arashi, is really awful. each group is talented in their own ways, i dont see why fans should bash a group just because they are not as good as the other group in an area the other group is good at.

i'm happy for dbsk but the things those kpop fans are going to say about arashi after hearing this news, makes me sad.

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Date: 2009-07-06 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
isn't it hurt that JE's plans backfired? pfft not a big deal right? it's only a daily chart but if only they leave Tohoshinki alone Tohoshinki might win the first place for weekly but no, Arashi had to interfere. they should have move Everything to July 8 release instead of dropping Arashi's single the same day Toho had theirs. Tohoshinki announced the dates way way before Arashi did.
it's all good though because i love Arashi too but i don't like how their company was manipulating oricon chart just because they can

Date: 2009-07-06 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
You do realise that Tegomass is releasing their single next week? And that another JE group is releasing their single the following week (the new debuting group)? Johnnys artistes don't release the same day.

And anytime after that would be too close to Arashi's BEST album to release Everything.

Tohoshinki releases so often, they are bound to run into Johnnys groups since there are so many of them.

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Date: 2009-07-06 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] matsubunny.livejournal.com
This is not big deal at all.

Like when Arashi released a One Love sp edition w/ some dom words, that made them to get the #2 for the yearly ranking.

So this band selling a deluxe single in Tokyo Dome, of course made fans buy it, i thought they would sell more though

there is no competition btw Arashi and this band in Japan, as there cant be competition in Korea.

Still, Arashi will get the 1st position for weekly sales, and i bet that also for monthly sales ^^

Date: 2009-07-06 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fukyouwaon.livejournal.com
For me I think it's okay..
Because I care about the overall sales more ^^

Date: 2009-07-06 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] megaffud7.livejournal.com
Eh! the reason for the boosting sale of Toho is their Dome concert last saturday ne!.DOME EFFECT..they sold another special editions,...Toho has many bonuses...and this single was already heavily promoted.
Avex release so much in this single.
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