sho and jun relationship last time

[nhbsakakude.livejournal.com]

hey~

I know this is an old story but has anyone watch mayonaka no arashi episode 9?soemthing jus sort of come up to me when i watched the vid.

its at the part where aiba gave them the smell of a mushroom...and jun hit his head..
i can totally see the unhappiness face on sho's face..i mean he was laughing and he immediately stopped when jun hit aiba's head.

i know that somehow there was some sort of a rift between sho and jun when they were younger ( thank god they r ok now )..there were many old vids that i watched where both of them don really talk to each other etc..especially during utaban where sho was saying how jun called him at 4am and to me,he really appeared pissed.

so i was wondering whether anyone know when or how does this happened?i know this has been brought up a couple of times at other places but i just wan to ask u guys what do u think..mayb im reading too much?

Not that i care abt their quarrel just that i wan to know why the sudden change since jun really admired sho back.

( Im not sure if this is the correct tag, pls inform me if its not ^^)

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I think it wasn't until Jun's 'rebellious' stage where he started scaring everyone that the four of them stopped being as lovey dovey towards him. My theory is that Jun started changing when he accept the bad boy role as Shin in Gokusen 2002. But the episode you mentioned was aired 2001, so I don't think he's 'transformed' himself yet. Maybe it's just Sho trying to act funny by reacting that way.

[(Anonymous)]

Agree with everything here.

Just my 2 cents. Not really answering your Q. Sorry ^^;;

[(Anonymous)]

Sho was an angry boy back then but I believe he wouldn't scold chibiJun if he did not feel comfortable with him. I've said "I'll kill you!" many times to my favorite junior buddy at school before, so I can understand it was not without love. Jun changed a lot after Sawada Shin so I feel Sho distanced himself from rebelJun because he was no longer the awkward boy who dots on him. I'm really glad that Jun is the one who's now initiate any interaction between them with Sho sometimes teasing Jun's sexiness playfully. Its just really cute now they begun to rekindle their times together when they were chibis in interviews and such. Just too cute.

Re: Just my 2 cents. Not really answering your Q. Sorry ^^;;

[amyrose92.livejournal.com]

Yup Sho was a VERY serious guy in the early debut days. He even broke a fangirl's camera for trying to take a picture of him and lectured her on Johnny Jimusho's rules. Then there was that time he yelled at all those screaming fangirls 'Urusai yo!' when he was at Keio. All in all, Sho does have a bit of a temper, but that's his personality. Him and Jun are really similar: a little temperamental, serious, leader-like. Of course, Jun's "rebellious" stage did make things difficult for the rest of the Arashi members, and not just Sho, but that's in the past. lol That row-boat Mago Mago Arashi episode shows how much extreme DoS Jun was. Plus, Sho and Aiba are REALLY close (e.g. shopping together, wearing matching clothes) so it must have offended him to see the youngest member of Arashi smack him on the head.

But, still, past is in the past. Now they're celebrating their 10 years together and all of them are really close. Though we don't know what goes on behind closed doors, we know for sure that they're still together and they haven't thought about disbanding yet. Let's enjoy Arashi love now, ne? :D

not really useful comment :P

[charingyu.livejournal.com]

they're the 2 most serious boys in Arashi, their personality and attitude are probably quite similar hence they clash sometimes

Re: not really useful comment :P

[charingyu.livejournal.com]

other than this, i can sort of picture chibi Matsujun as the bossy one xD, maybe sho didn't like it? :D

[lillz-mokki.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I always wondered myself. While watching "Mago Mago Arashi" I noticed that Jun and Sho are coupled only 4 times out of 125 edpisodes. Of course they have their individual schedules,but....they didn't even appeared together in "Kodomo no bangohan". Not once! I really wanted to see this pairing. Who knows what really happened between these two, ne.

[minamichan03.livejournal.com]

i noticed the same thing too..
in kodomo no bangohan, jun and sho never appeared together.. T__T

but. i'm kinda glad now, that there are a lot of sakumoto pairings esp. in Himitsu.. just like Bakakkoii challenge! ^__^

[lou-khl.livejournal.com]

Technically, Jun is actually Aiba's sempi, since Jun enter Johnny's earlier.

[babicchan.livejournal.com]

wow i've never noticed ..i only knew they said Jun has a rebellious period but nothing in particoular..may i ask you where did you find mayonaka no arashi episodes? i'm curious now! **

[mintceres.livejournal.com]

they are subbed by yuckie-chan / jeffer / winkychan @ arashi_yuuki^^

I never noticed that sho+jun never had MMA together... :/ interesting...
maybe it really is because of their personalities that they clash...
both are perfectionists....

[amtitude.livejournal.com]

eh? I'm worry about this topic too...
anyway, in Shonen Club Premium 2008, Jun said there're times when he just did whatever he wanted and even got a warning from jimusho that he went too far....Sho is also a serious person so maybe they got clash sometimes?
That's all just my own opinion, though I really hope they love each other just like we see them now :)

[jujeila.livejournal.com]

I also noticed, that it did'nt gave a jun/sho pairing when they did G no Arashi, I wondered me all the time why they did't do one episode together

[amtitude.livejournal.com]

also GnA?
This made me getting more nervous already (T_T)

[magicalsong.livejournal.com]

I don't know about Sho-kun and Jun's relationship in the past, but I just wanted to clear the problem with that particular Mayonaka no Arashi episode.

So, since you watched it already, you would know that Aiba-chan ate all the matsutake that was given to him, and he brought back the 'smell'. When Aiba-chan said this to everyone they were sarcastically laughing at him. Jun first stopped laughing and gave Aiba-chan a smack. And everyone stopped too. I don't really know how to explain it, but it was just fun. It wasn't that Sho-kun was angry or anything with Jun and whatever you think O:

Well, I hope someone understands what I'm saying here xD

[mk-mj.livejournal.com]

100% agree!! xD i think the smack was like the "right moment" to go back to stop and go back to "normal" (i don't know how to explain but it was the right moment >.<)...everyone was pissed off because when Aiba said that he has something on the bag they were expecting that he brought back some for them and it was actually only the smell xD so i think sho wasn't angry with Jun...

(but i'm curious about what did Sho thought about and did when Jun was in rebellious stage)

[silverxrainx.livejournal.com]

Sorry, I couldn't help but feel curious, but what happened during Sports Day?

And, the members back then were young and it would be natural to conflict XD Although they try their best to keep up their "we're best friends and we never fight" image. Although now, they're all much more mature and that peaceful and friendly image comes naturally now :)

imo

[dpamintuan.livejournal.com]

contarary to what everyone has said.. i think they're pretty close, in the respectful kind of way. i remember reading interviews on how chibi jun used to IDOLIZE sho, and how close they were. sho even stayed @ jun's house and waited for him there to come back from his junior high grad, and sho was the reason why jun even went to highschool! i rather think they are close, just on a respectable level.. and lately they've been doing lotsa things together! going to junior concerts TOGETHER, watching nino's play TOGETHER, and sho even mentioned how he and jun went out to eat, but sho's plans failed because he tried to impress matusjun too much xD. LOL. remember, the members have their own personal bonds.. but i personally LOVE this pairing, it's just sad how they're not as highly publicized as let's say ohmiya, or sakuraiba.

Re: imo

[jenni06.livejournal.com]

Waa, i didn't know about the "watching nino's play together", when did you read it ?

[takuya-asakura.livejournal.com]

About Sho and Jun... Honestly, I really do have kind of a curiosity about their pairing, because they are not so talked about or seen as "closed" such as Ohmiya or Sakuraiba, or even Nino and Aiba who are like best friends since ever, not to mention Sakumiya.

Anyway, as a lot of people have alredy said... Sho was a serius junior back then, however, we can actually see tha Sho and Matsujun used to be VERY close. They were often put to work together and Jun has always admired Sho a lot, and he is not even ashamed to say this, even now. A prove of this is the way Jun comments about how amazing it is the idea of Sho having such a strong and important presence in Jimusho because of him appearing as a newscaster. Jun respects him so much. Also, if it was not for Sho, Jun would probably have quitten highschool, Sho was the one who changed his mind and made him finish school properly.

There was a time I was kind of worried about their relationship together 'cause I noticed a changing between how they interact together in the group as they were growing up. But Jun and Sho are kind of the "real" leaders of Arashi, they are the most serious ones and Jun loves Arashi and considers so much his members, and that includes Sho. Plus, I've been watching them interact with each other more often lately, which is a good thing. They've always said and still say about how they get well together and honestly, I believe it.

About your question xD *sorry, talks too much* that day on Utaban was kind of among the time they still were seen like really close to each other. Jun calling him in the middle of the night, at least for me, just proves how close they were... it's just that, probably, Sho is not the kind of people who likes to be waken up on midnight xDD Besides, they are always metioning each other in the interviews, no worries.

[nhbsakakude.livejournal.com]

LOL..true..i mean i will b like sho or worse if someone called me at 4 am just to talk... >____<

ya and im glad to c them joke with each other more now haha
its sweet

[domyouji-love.livejournal.com]

I don't know much about the rift between Sho and Jun when they were younger. But I think if there was a rift, it has dissipated by now. They're both adults and they seem to have a mutual respect for one another.


As for Jun calling Sho at four o'clock in the morning, would anyone be angry? I know I would be upset if someone called me at that hour, so it's not farfetched to be believe that Sho was upset with Jun. Especially if you consider ARASHI's schedule; they can work up to midnight, which already cuts down on the amount of sleep they get.


So Sho being angry about an indiscretion isn't a sign of anything wrong between them.

[(Anonymous)]

The Jimusho has its way in making/ breaking up 'pairings' which I think is a good thing because if chibi ShoJun continued to be publicized wildly, they might end up like Akame, and I don't think that's right for Arashi.

Personally, I like unpublicized relationship, because it sounded more real. In the entertainment world, you don't usually say what/who you like, plus Jun and Sho developed their stage characters in a very different ways/ direction; while Jun built his character from Shin and continued with that mould, Sho's often had clashing roles (His role in Yoiko no Mikata was definitely not his character back then) And since Sho also had the added pressure of graduating, it's not exactly easy for him to have a fixed stage personality as early as Jun.

I do believe when it comes to filming, it has to depend on each member's schedule. Jun was doing a lot of work during MMA/GnA days and it ended in 2008 with HYDF, and since then, we can see Jun's concentrated more on his work with Arashi now. And we can see how Sho is getting busier with his own schedule now, so it's all a cycle really.

This end bit might sound very assumptive, but to me this is how the Jimusho works. Now that Jun has established his popularity (outside from Arashi work), one of the ways to boost Sho's popularity is to pair him with Jun. I'd not be suprised if he becomes GQ Man of the Year this year. And it's easier for Sho to achieve it, since he has a great track record of his own work too.

[esquethetic.livejournal.com]

Well it's known in the fandom that Sho & Jun had...some kind of rift in their relationship early on, but moving from that, in particular with that scene in Mayonaka...
I think it was more of those sarcastic laughing situations. You know, where one person is being stupid, so the entire group laughs sarcastically with them, and then stops. For example:

Person A: (says or does something stupid)
Everyone else: HAHAHAHA.
Person A: *joining in* HAHAH--
Person B: -No.

It's like a group tsukomi XD I do that with my friends all the time. I think it was just a matter of how to perceive it, because if you look at Nino & Ohno, they stopped laughing too.

[fraash.livejournal.com]

LMAOLMAOLMAO.
OMG, ive been 'person a' in the scenario too too too tooooo often.

Just my 2 cents worth

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's just about their personality. They are both serious and leader-like so we can't expect to see them over each other like Ohmiya (which sometimes annoys me because it's too much, really *__*), or doing lots of things together like Sakuraiba. IMO, I think their relationship is quite serious with a note of respect and maybe wariness `cause they know they both have a temper and don't want to test each other's limits?

And besides, don't you think that Jun is quite distant from the other 4? I don't know but sometimes I see that he doesn't really fit in. Maybe that rebellious stage and drama roles changed his image/stage persona from a quite touchy-feely, bright smile boy (chibi Jun smiled a lot) to quite a cool, more collected one. That's why it's hard to pair him up with anyone on screen ^^ It's quite easy to pair Jun with Ohno or Aiba, `cause they're more the peaceful side of the group like "yin", but we can't see much from Nino or Sho `cause those 3 are like "yang". Personally, I think the relationship between Jun and Nino or Jun and Sho will be more low profile `cause they're not the type to publicize their private activities. Or maybe it's just the fangirl in me who likes subtle/unpublicized pairing likes to think.

Anyway, I believe Arashi is close friends, and they all have a nice relationship with each other behind the scene. But cameras can't capture everything, right?

Sorry for my ranting. Don't make much sense anyway.

[(Anonymous)]

yes, you are reading too much into it. you may have noticed that the boys whack each other on a regular basis. it's your basic manzai skit where the tsukkomi (straight man) hits the boke (funny man) for saying or doing something lame/stupid.

jun's personality change came in 2002, coincidentally, when he played sawada shin. basically what followed were slightly emo/rebellious roles too (Kimi wa Pet and Tokyo Tower). when he did HYD, he transformed into the "king". he became chirpy-cheerful for Smile. i'll risk the possibility of boring you. this acting style is called method acting. oguri shun, like jun, uses this to a certain extent. nino, on the other hand, utilizes improvisation acting.

it's just sad that some fans, not you (since you asked about it), see these moments and immediately conclude that he's an a$$@#%&. there is so much more that we don't know about the five of them (what they've been through and what they're going through). still they have accepted each others' quirks and shortcomings. that's why we like them, right? ^_^

[nhbsakakude.livejournal.com]

Oh tats the worse..i mean just bcos he's a serious kind,( as u c him scolding etc ) and always act cool imo,my firneds don like him..Lol

or mayb she doesn't like arashi since she don like oono too..how can anyone hate oono...he's like the shadow of arashi.. @____@

[harunomasu.livejournal.com]

When they filmed Mayonaka no Arashi, they're not as close as now. You remember the Shounen Club interview when they said that they begin to notice each other after the concert in 2002 right? Before they filmed their first movie ever, Pikanchi.

Both Jun and Sho are people with high temper, so they don't really talk much before they get closed.

And to clear the misunderstanding.

Sho and Jun weren't paired together in Kodomo no Bangohan because of Jun's tight schedule. I think that's when he played in Bambino. But they have been paired quite a lot in Jouka Machi and in several grandkids episode.

Yes, Jun was in his rebellious stage after he played Sawada Shin's role. But that doesn't make him separated from the others. Remember, when Gokusen was aired, it's in the middle of 2002, so they're still learning about each other. And that's why they looked so distant. But if you watched the making of Pikanchi, you could see that they're very close indeed :)

[megaffud7.livejournal.com]

You don't know? I Knew all of those......He has such a bad attitude when they're in their Junior days.....First, I can't accept what he did to the camera of the girl, If I'm the girl I would definitely throw something on him too. BUT past is past and they're not perfect.....and I LOVE bad tempered guys lol.........maybe Rich guyz are just like that ne!

[junbait.livejournal.com]

The boys don't have to act like Ohmiya to show that they care about each other. During an ep of utaban during one of the fights Jun banged his leg against the table and sho was the only one to scream up "ARE YOU OK?!??!"

Personally they are my OTP becasue of the fact that it's so rare. I get really excited when I see them together. so there are a few moments/ things I wnat to point out

1) even as a person who really loves Jun, I still have to admit he's the girliest one in Arashi and Sho is the manliest. Although their personality is similar their interests are very different. I got this impression from reading Non-no's article about the two. The topic was fashion and Jun kept rambling and even talking about women's fashion while sho admited that he didn't really pay attention

2) Everyone remembers that Jun and Sho weren't paired a lot back in MMA however, the show gave me a golden moment when Jun said that he wanted to go on a date with Sho to a concert (<3 <3 <3) even though sho said that it wouldn't be good to go with him because sho would be dancing between the aisle and not next to Jun XD XD XD However, it seems that Jun got his wish when they DID go to a live together... now all ohmiya has to do is go to a deserted island LOL

Sho is like a mother ( Jun's words!!) but out of everyone in Arashi Jun needs the least attention. Let's break down the other three. Aiba the super-bouncy-person-who-can-hurt-himself-in-a-room-full-of-pillows ( beacsue seriously pillows can hurt) Ohno the spacey leader who can stay on a boat for more than 24hrs, Nino a person who has admited to having a lonely life and is not motivated to eat at all. Even on shukudaikun he doesn't eat all dishes (compared to Ohno, Sho and Aiba). Compare that to Jun who is an excellent cook, hates the feeling of pain, and can overall take care of himself.

I'm aware of the fact that I am only using what they allow us to see but with ohno and aiba at elast, what you see if what you get.
BTW I'm also SUPER happy of the fact that Jun and Sho sit next to each other during Hey hey hey and HNA. ^________________^

[(Anonymous)]

LOl..i havto admit too..i always tot that jun is girly in some ways XDXD
tho nino is not far bhind...

yupp and i love it during hna when they r supposed to say don take ur eyes away..
whenever the cam guy points the cam at sho and jun grab it away.. XD

[vivizanessafan.livejournal.com]

I think the "rift" mentioned here has originated from the fact that fans rarely see the two of them being close with each other. In fact, their relationship is built on their respect toward each other, in a different way from the other pairs. They may not have much skinship and not acting lovey dovey like Ohmiya or Sakuraiba but that's just the way it is. (I mean, in life, there are some people you don't usually talk to or fool around with but somehow you still feel that you're close to them. Sakumoto reminds me of that kind of relationship. I really don't know how to say XD)
As people has stated, Sho used to be really bad-tempered in the early days. But those are also the days that I saw a lot of interaction between Sho and Jun. Isn't it calling someone at 4AM proves that they're close? XD And Sho: "I'll kill you!" He said that in a scary way and then laughed right after that! LOL I've said that kind of thing to my friends hundred times so I know, there must be enough comfortable feeling between two people to say things like that. I adore Jun and Sho in that Utaban ep, they're like brothers, really :)
Each member has different personality and different relationship with the others. However it is, we know that they're really close and their bond is really strong. That's the reason why we love Arashi, right? ^^ Okay, I'll stop my rambling now XDD

[ashmauve.livejournal.com]

WOW! ive gained much from the comments, but the cutest chibi moments on sakumoto the the time when they did the detective things while they're still jr.s lol the one whr jun dressed as a girl.

sakumoto and their oversized detective trench coats = -_-;<3

[kyukyukyu.livejournal.com]

Reading the first comments.. got me really REAAAALLY nervous. on the brightside, they are really getting cloder ne? i love them both, and i hope nothing bad would happen...
(ive noticed this a long time ago but i didn't bother to focus on it... i know for a fact that sho and jun respects and cares for each other. ^^)

[relockz.livejournal.com]

wow, i actually din noe abt this -.-

this got me WOW-ed~ can someone enlighten me? so last time matsujun has a rebellious stage and that caused a rift (distanciation) bwt him and sho?

pardon me for this, cus this got my attention and i really wan to know abt this, happens that both are my fav member too -.- ahhh, i feel so %^^&&** lol..

thks!