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arashi_onA fellow Arashi fan pointed this out...
Johnny's is already canceling some tickets and posting the numbers on their website:
https://www.fc-member.johnnys-net.jp/guest/guideline/index.html
My brother's friend translated the red bracketed text above the ticket numbers/dates as:
"The following concert tickets that have these seat numbers are now invalid."
Johnny's is already canceling some tickets and posting the numbers on their website:
https://www.fc-member.johnnys-net.jp/guest/guideline/index.html
My brother's friend translated the red bracketed text above the ticket numbers/dates as:
"The following concert tickets that have these seat numbers are now invalid."
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Date: 2009-08-23 03:40 am (UTC)i wonder if they'll keep this up for other concerts too, or if its just for the Arashi 10th Anniversary ones...
thanks for posting this info though.
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Date: 2009-08-23 03:56 am (UTC)*thx for explaining ^0^
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Date: 2009-08-23 03:54 am (UTC)sorry i don really get it why je is so serious abt this.. ^^;
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Date: 2009-08-23 03:59 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2009-08-23 04:01 am (UTC)my understanding is that the main complaint is, even fanclub members are not getting tickets -- someone said that the odds of getting a ticket if you're in the fanclub is about 20%. (i can't back that figure at all, it was just the number being tossed around.) so when johnny's and the fanclub members who were unable to get tickets see people who did get tickets turn around and sell them for 15x the face value, they get angry -- those tickets should go to fans, not people in it to make a profit. but again, this is all rumor!
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Date: 2009-08-24 03:43 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-08-24 03:55 am (UTC)If they somehow managed to, the scalpers would just have to move off to a different area, like the train station, where the security probably wouldn't even see them.
The so-called "security" people don't really seem like the same kind of security you'd see say, inside the venue protecting the boys from crazy fans. They probably don't have much power or authority.
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Date: 2009-08-24 04:39 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-08-24 05:02 am (UTC)If your ticket is bought online and they know about it (because your number is on the list, for example) then they have as much authority to kick you out (if you don't present proof otherwise) because buying tickets online (through a scalper and not Johnny's) is illegal and selling them online is illegal. Technically you've attempted to enter the venue through illegal means. Scalpers are outside the venue and it could be said that scalpers are technically "outside" security's area of authority.
If you've already made it into the venue, online scalped ticket and all, then they're going to have a harder time finding you (unless they just discriminate and single out foreigners, in which case, they won't always have an illegal ticket).
Obviously I don't work for the company so what I say isn't 100% the way it goes. This is just my own educated guess. I think they're just fed up and they have to deal with this in almost the harshest way possible, unfortunately. All we can really do is wait and see what witnesses of the first concert report back to us about security and how tough they're being on people.
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Date: 2009-08-25 04:26 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-08-25 04:34 am (UTC)I don't mean to completely discourage you. I'm waiting until we here back from people who try to get in before I get completely angsty about it.
And I'd rather not pay more than $75 for a ticket, so if I can't, I'm not going this year.
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Date: 2009-08-25 04:36 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-08-25 04:45 am (UTC)If they did it would be really hard to do and would take a lot of man power. It seems like they do NOT want to kick people out randomly because they were saying the seats that were scalped will be given/sold to someone else. So *maybe* if you make it past the gates, you'll be safe.
I think they really don't want to have *any* empty seats because it is a really special concert.
I know for sure they're going to stop you if you have seat number that's on the list though- quote from what's been translated, "If you do not make a confirmation to the concert agency in advance, you will be asked to leave the premises when you reach your seat. Please understand that the seat will be given to someone else."
I'm not sure how they're going to fill those seats if people try to claim them on the day of the concert (what are they going to do? grab people off the street to fill the empty space? because it almost sounds like they are). It's pretty complicated and I'm not even sure the Johnny's concert organizers have thought it through all the way.
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Date: 2009-08-25 04:56 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-08-25 05:09 am (UTC)I kind of have a feeling it's scare tactics too, but if that's true, they'll have to make examples out of some people (like what they're already doing by posting up the tickets that have become invalid).
I haven't seen anywhere that they've given tickets to people already. But I haven't looked around the Johnny's site and only one of my sources has said, "I've once read that those who got the "illegal" tickets must go the office and if they pay the original price of the tickets they can enter." I have no idea if that's true or not though.
It's a tough decision to make. If you feel like you can make it in and you don't mind the cost, it's your decision in the end. I'm just going to hope beyond hope one of my resources pull through.
Good luck though. If you're going to Kokuritsu, please report back so the rest of us know how the battle field is. LOL. I'm dying to know how hard this is going to be.
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Date: 2009-08-25 04:48 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-08-23 03:59 am (UTC)but why now though, i mean it's not a new case fanclub member selling tickets through auction sites O.o
*ur icon!! *grin*
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Date: 2009-08-23 04:10 am (UTC)why now -- i guess they're saying that it's because arashi tickets are in such high demand that fanclub members are not even getting them. and as for how -- apparently they put a tiny serial number on either the tickets or the confirmation forms this time around, and while the sellers knew to block out the seat numbers and names when they posted the pictures, they didn't know to block out the serial numbers, and that's how they got caught.
(and thank you! ueda's looking pretty sweet in yours, too XD)
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Date: 2009-08-23 04:30 am (UTC)This situation is similar to some of the popular sports teams over here in the states. The New England Patriots, for example, will cancel the membership of a season ticket holder who sells or "loans" his or her seat at one or more games throughout the season. Season ticket holders will usually do this to make some money, or they'll lend out their seats to friends and family. After all, season ticket holders can't attend EVERY home game of a sixteen game season. Tickets are VERY hard to come by, so buying tickets put up for auction by season ticket holders through a legitimate online ticket re-sale site is one of the few ways a person can get into the game.
But the management rightly wants to make sure that they have some control over the behavior of their ticket holders. If a season ticket holder gets drunk and rowdy at a game, it's very likely he (or she) will be thrown out and his season ticket membership cancelled. The same holds true if he (or she!) sells his seats to someone else for a game, and the buyer ends up getting drunk and rowdy and ruining the game experience for everyone else. Even if the season ticket holder is a sworn teetotaler and wouldn't say boo to a goose, let alone pick a fight with an usher, their membership will STILL be cancelled because it is the responsibility of the season ticket holder to follow the rules of behavior at the game, and to make sure anyone else who might use their ticket also follows those rules.
THis isn't the same situation, obviously -- a fan club isn't the same as a season ticket. But it shows that there IS precedent for an organization to cancel tickets based on unauthorized redistribution. It's a deep shame, of course, especially for people from out of the country who can't otherwise get tickets to see Arashi in concert. But I suppose, in a way, it's understandable.
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Date: 2009-08-23 04:38 am (UTC)I would hate to see empty seats that could have gone to fans. Really, what people should do is rebel against the scalpers by NOT buying their tickets, but I know it's almost impossible for people resist because it's such a special concert.
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Date: 2009-08-23 04:41 am (UTC)i think that an overseas fanclub would gather more money for JE because so many people right now are scrambling for copies or whatever, but if it were more available...maybe it would be a good investment??? highly risky when one thinks of how popular they really are out of asia....although so many gather here and on other similar sites, how many per country or whatever? enough to risk investing in? probably not ;-;
at least they are cracking down though...it's important to keep everything running smoothly....just in case >< (not fair that scalpers sell the tickets for so much to desperate fans to make money they dont deserve >< )
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Date: 2009-08-23 04:56 am (UTC)but yea actualli i understand those FC members who can't get tix while ppl who get tix are making profit frm them...though it is a benefit to overseas fans, but to them is unfair.
but aniwae i just wish that JE will open up an overseas fanclub..
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Date: 2009-08-23 05:20 am (UTC)moneythings from their local fans.no subject
Date: 2009-08-23 05:02 am (UTC)i understand that they would prioritize fan club members but i wish they'd consider that there may be a lot more out there who couldn't cough up the money for membership but may save up for special events like cons. unless i misunderstood the whole process?
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Date: 2009-08-23 10:26 am (UTC)i hope all foreign fans know that it is possible to attend a concert as a non-member and legally! sure it's difficult but not impossible. especially if you reside in Japan or have someone in Japan trying to get the tickets. i'm talking about Playguide tickets now ^_^