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Hello, this is soft_rain again! =)

In my other notice post, I found out a lot of people still don't know much about Channel V's Battle of Pop, such as why it's important and what it'll actually do for Arashi. So after long conversation with the very knowledgeable
[info]cassyclim8, we decided to make this FAQ post in case anyone still has any questions, (even if it's only going to be useful for the next 3-4 days =P).

First off, for the people that really don't know anything yet: Arashi is currently up against Kat-tun for the final round of Channel V's Battle of Pop: Japan vs. Korea. But this is probably old news to most of you, right? I'm sorry if you guys are getting sick of hearing about BoP. I swear this will be my last post on it. ^ ^'

If you have any questions about the battle, please take a look at the information that cassy has so kindly organized for us. Honestly, I was amazed when she told me all this, because I didnt know as much about Channel V as I thought I did. Hope it helps~



What is Channel V?

Channel V is a music channel that is being broadcasted across
Asia in places such as Malaysia, Philippines, Singapore, Cambodia, Taiwan, Thailand, etc. Battle of the Pop (BOP) has been a regular poll of Channel V. Past BOPs and the corresponding winners are the following

• March 2009 Battle of the Pop: Asia vs America – Rain (winner)
(source: http://www.channelv.com/rde/v/1837.htm)
• April 2009 Battle of the Pop: Asia vs Asia – Super Junior (winner)
(source: http://www.channelv.com/rde/v/2199.htm)
• May 2009 Battle of the Pop: Boys vs Girls – TVXQ/DBSK/Tohoshinki (winner)
(source: http://www.channelv.com/rde/v/2662.htm)
• June 2009 Battle of the Pop: Battle of the Moves – Super Junior (winner)
(source: http://www.channelv.com/rde/v/3123.htm)

Let’s add Arashi to this list by making them the winners of the Japan vs Korea BOP!!!! This is the first time that Arashi was included in the BOP. Even in the
Asia vs Asia battle where a lot of idol bands and artists across Asia were included, Arashi was not there! =(


Why is this poll important? How is it any different from the others?

Channel V is aired in several Asian countries and this is a chance for Arashi to be known to a wider audience. Currently, Channel V does not air Arashi videos as much as that of other cpop or kpop groups in their shows. This poll would signal to Channel V that there are lots of Arashi fans in this part of the world. When TVXQ and Super Junior won in BOP, Channel V aired a one-hour special for each group in their show Videoscope. It seems like Channel V is now aware that there are a lot of Arashi fans among the countries in which their channel caters to so they decided to have a one-hour special on Arashi for their Videoscope show on November 14, 2009 (source: http://forum.channelv.com/index.php?topic=1806.msg6244).

There was a bit of outrage among Arashi fans when they originally indicated in their site that an Arashi Videoscope special was scheduled on Oct 10, 2009 only to find out that they were featuring Utada. Apparently, it had been rescheduled to November 14. They better not mess with the already fragile hearts of Arashi fans by not airing it again, if ever. Videoscope would usually provide information about the artist from their debut to their newest hits. I HOPE SOMEONE WOULD BE ABLE TO CAP THIS AND UPLOAD THE VIDEOSCOPE SPECIAL.

Also, this is not just a regular poll. Channel V will have a show displaying the results of BoP. And they will air a lot of videos of the winning artist. About 3-5 approximately. =)




Alright then, you've caught my interest. How do I vote?

1. Register at: http://www.channelv.com/rde/v/3564.htm
2. Vote here: http://www.channelv.com/rde/v/3564_3567.htm
3. You may vote once a day!
And if you want to vote more than once a day, that's your decision so please don't comment about how we've made a mistake on this info post.



I can’t vote! Channel V is screwing with me!! What do I do?

If you’re stuck in the semifinal round or the poll doesn’t even show up on your screen, then you may try one of the following:

1. Clear your cookies and temp internet files.
2. Use another browser from the one previously used in voting in the last round. Like if you used chrome, shift to firefox, internet explorer, safari, etc.
3. Close the current window and open a new one.
4. Use another computer or laptop (wow that would be total dedication!)



Attention, the final score is:

ARASHI: 20,304 (*And we have over 100,000 votes total!! Whoo, let's celebrate!!)

KAT-TUN: 14,106

These numbers will be updated every day as much as possible but since I still have to eat, sleep and go to classes, they might be a bit off sometimes. If you want to find the exact count, then learn how by following the link below.


What’s the sitch?! How do I know if Arashi is leading when I can’t see the tally of votes like in the previous rounds?

We can actually do a pretty rough estimate of the situation by adding the final votes per round of the artist then subtract it from the figures at the “Artist Leaderboard section” at the BOP homepage:

http://www.channelv.com/rde/v/3564.htm

So here’s the formula:
Final vote figure of Artist1 = Artist Leaderboard figure of Artist1 – (Round 1 final figure of Artist1 + Round 2 final figure of Artist1 + Semifinal final figure of Artist1)

The cumulative figures for the first 3 rounds per artist are as follows:

Arashi – 80,867
Kattun – 70,473

So in effect, we could just deduct these numbers from the figures in the Leader board section of the BOP homepage and we’ll be able to have an idea of the votes.

Sorry. If cassy's math is a little confusing, then try to think of it like this: the total number of votes of both Arashi and Kat-tun are cumulative, meaning they're a total of all the votes from the final and the previous rounds. So if the total of the past three rounds for Arashi is 80867, then just subtract that number from the overall votes on the BOP homepage and you have the number of votes in the final round! 4-3=1 right?

But remember! It's not the overall number of votes that counts. Arashi has about 12K more votes than Kat-tun overall, but that doesn't mean anything because most of those votes are from the previous rounds. It's only the number of votes in the final round that matters. Okay? Sorry again if we're confusing you. But please go to the site above and try cassy's math is you want to find the exact tally yourself.



When will we find out the results?

I’ve browsed in several homepages of previous BOP battles and it seems that they usually air the show on a Sunday. In one BOP battle, the last day of voting was Friday and the Results show was aired on Sunday.

The timeslot is also different depending on the number of participants of the battle. During the Asia vs America Results show, there were 32 artists who competed in round 1, so the schedule was from 6am – 6pm (GMT+8 or Hongkong, Singapore, Philippines, Taiwan, Malaysia time). Since the number of artists who participated in this BOP is smaller, the airtime will definitely be shorter.


Schedule of the Results Show: TBA


Date for the Voting period to end according to Channel V site is Sun. Oct. 25, (we have until the 25th to get our votes in for Arashi!!). The time is not specified so I don’t know if the Results show will also be aired on the same day.

*Attention! According to the wonderful [info]aishoni who was nice enough to inform us of the news, Channel V will have their Results show on November 2, 2pm - 5pm HK/SG, 3pm - 6pm MAL. I...don't know when those times are but at least we know the day, right? ^_^'

**IMPORTANT! Big news!! According to [info]tapsilogue, the date of the Results show has been changed yet again. It is now on November 1, at 2pm HK/SG/PH, 3pm MAL. Please don't miss it!! 

And much thanks to tapsiloque for the new info. =D


Format of the Results show: (this is based on what my friend told me when she watched a previous BOP episode. I wasn’t able to watch the whole thing so….)

Channel V, (with the usual spiel of the VJ and commercial breaks making the show longer) ,  will air first one music video each from ALL artists who participated in the first round.

After this, they will show a music video of ALL artists who advanced to the second round. (My friend told me that the videos shown for round 2 are different from the music video shown for round 1). The same procedure applies for the semifinal round.

For the final round, they will show a music video of the runner-up artist and finally MORE THAN 1 MUSIC VIDEO of the Winning Artist. I’m not sure if the music videos for the winning artist will be different from the ones previously aired or if they will play all 3 videos and then add some more….



Wait, can I see Channel V on my TV? Which channel??

To know more about the countries that have Channel V and in which channel it airs, please check out this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_V

Schedule of BOP results is applicable for Channel V International. For countries that have their own Channel V versions (e.g. Channel V Thailand, Channel V Philippines, etc), check out the schedule of the BOP results if it will be shown in your local channel and at what time. *This information has been provided by the resourceful [info]ai_nino. Thank you!! 


*I really hope this post helps anyone who was still hazy about BoP. If you have any more questions, please don't hesitate to ask. Oh, and please thank cassy for all her hard work! She was the one that put together all this information for you guys. Lol, I'm just here because she didn't know how to use LJ cut. X]

** I just now realized that [info]tapsilogue has some info on the battle too. So if theres anything that wasnt answered here, please go to her post as a follow up. =)



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Date: 2009-10-22 03:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jadeswallow.livejournal.com
thanks for these infos!! i've been voting every day and get a little worried because they don't show the result! hope arashi will win and someone will upload the videoscope!!! :)

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Date: 2009-10-22 03:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cassyclim8.livejournal.com
yeah that's what i'm really hoping for! that someone would upload Videoscope when they feature arashi. coz it will show some clips of the boys from their debut days till the present....try to like summarize their 10-years in 1 hour! haha

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Date: 2009-10-22 03:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solipsisticrian.livejournal.com
This FAQ's REALLY awesome! I didn't know about the Nov 14th reschedule and what would happen exactly on Oct 25th. Saving the dates.

I've said this elsewhere but Channel V is smart. Especially now that votes are "hidden", no time yet for TV announcement... I have been seeing nothing but Channel V on my TV set and laptop for the past n weeks! Arashi 10th anniversary present ftw!

Date: 2009-10-22 04:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mumblerm.livejournal.com
Thank you for this:)
I have been voting without knowing exactly what I was voting for:P I live in the US and I don't have access to Chanel V, so I hope someone does upload it, I really want to see what they put together:)
I shall keep voting! Arashi ftw!!!

Date: 2009-10-22 05:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abigaillau.livejournal.com
OO WAH! i really hope Arashi will win! this is very first time i got so crazy over a band. i seriously love them alot man. i really hope that their songs will even touch the hearts of people who do not know them yet. ARASHI ALL THE WAY! (:

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Date: 2009-10-22 05:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mischi-14.livejournal.com
I applaud you for being so passionate about BoP. I hope Arashi wins! Vote you guys!!!! XD

Date: 2009-10-22 05:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meredith276.livejournal.com
i've been voting everyday!! and there's a poll on Sistic [a ticketing company in singapore] for them to come to singapore, and hopefully more of asia.. and more je grps.. haha..

Date: 2009-10-22 05:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abigaillau.livejournal.com
YEP YEP!! OH GOSH! I LONG TO SEE THEM LIVE IN SINGAPORE MAN. I SPAMMED VOTED WITH DIFFERENT EMAILS! >.

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New announcement by JessyDB @ Channel[v]

Date: 2009-10-22 05:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aishoni.livejournal.com
"Tune in to [V] on Nov 2 at 2pm – 5pm HK/SG, 3pm – 6pm MAL to find out who wins.
http://forum.channelv.com/index.php?topic=1788.msg6412#msg6412

It'll be on Monday instead on Sunday :( and they delayed it quite a bit.
Oh well, hope they'll air LOTS of Arashi videos.

Re: New announcement by JessyDB @ Channel[v]

Date: 2009-10-22 05:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abigaillau.livejournal.com
hmm.. Channel V is on? i couldn't recall having this channel. >.

Date: 2009-10-22 05:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arashi-love-01.livejournal.com
thanks a lot ! i actually register 8 accounts so i can vote 8 times a day ! i was really worried `ckoz i can`t see the number of votes but thanks for the info :)

Date: 2009-10-22 06:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bulkyass.livejournal.com
another thing to know how much the votes are:

Get the number of votes from Artist Leaderboard. That's the total of votes, right?
THEN, subtract the number of votes from Round 1 up to the last round. The final figure you get is approximately the number of votes in the last round.

I'm sorry, I just want to share something. :D

Keep on voting guys!

Date: 2009-10-22 06:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ragdollpixie.livejournal.com
No offence, but is this the last post about this voting thing or the last post explaining what the voting is for?

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Date: 2009-10-22 06:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hanaismail.livejournal.com
thank you for this info..
ive been voting arashi since round 1 but yes lately they didnt display the votes and thanks to you for give me the formula of calculating it (how can i not knowing this simply maths hahahaha)
i will keep voting ^^

Date: 2009-10-22 07:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crazym0on.livejournal.com
thank you so much for this faq i rally hope they will win
arashifans please keep voting

Date: 2009-10-22 09:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rininjapan.livejournal.com
I hope so much that a) Arashi wins or b) at the very least some of their best (and not just most recent) PVs are played. Kitto Daijoubu, Love So Sweet, We Can Make It, Happiness, truth, Beautiful Days, Believe...
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Date: 2009-10-22 11:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terge-18.livejournal.com
hahahahahaha!!! LJ won't allow me to change my username :(( YEAH!! VOTE VOTE VOTE!! annoying work shift~ because it ends at 11pm, i need hurry home always just to make sure that i get to vote before the day ends. xDD wii~ i've missed you ate!!

Date: 2009-10-22 11:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sky7horizon.livejournal.com
awesome..please do tht coz there's no way i would know the latest votes now as the scoreboard was totally hidden.if the overall battle aired on sunday 12noon-6pm, when will the voting stop?the day before or on that vary day? coz by just merely few thousands vote, if we miscalculate and stop, they will be surpassed in no time.

Date: 2009-10-22 11:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cassyclim8.livejournal.com
hi! well that was the schedule during the previous BOP and i thought it was the same all throughout. but aishoni already posted the new timeslot which she got from the admin of the channelv forum. it's gonna be on

November 2, 2pm - 5pm HK/SG, 3pm - 6pm MAL
source: http://forum.channelv.com/index.php?topic=1788.msg6412#msg6412

so voting is till Oct. 25 then results show is on nov. 2....

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Date: 2009-10-22 12:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kyoticle.livejournal.com
i just hope someone is able to upload the show then when it is aired :) but im voting everyday :3

where did you get these voting numbers? since it is not shown atm >__<

Date: 2009-10-22 02:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cassyclim8.livejournal.com
the formula for computing and estimating the votes is already explained in the post.... :)



Date: 2009-10-22 01:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mich04elle.livejournal.com
thanks, I'm also confused on how to know their score votes. :)

Date: 2009-10-22 02:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cassyclim8.livejournal.com
hi! are you still having difficulty in determining their scores?

basically, you just look at the figures posted under the leaderboard section that could be found here: http://www.channelv.com/rde/v/3564.htm

right now, these are the following numbers (the numbers are constantly changing):

Arashi = 92,479 Votes
Kattun = 79,550 Votes

that's the total number of votes since the start of the contest. now, we want to know the votes for the final round only since that's the basis for determining who will win in the final battle. so what you do is determine the numbers for the first 3 rounds, then deduct it from the total to get the final round numbers.

here are the numbers for the first three rounds:

Arashi = 80,867 Votes
Kat-tun = 70,473 Votes

So the final round numbers would be:

Arashi Final Round votes = 92,479 - 80,867
= 11,612 Votes

Kat-tun Final Round votes = 79,550 - 70,473
= 9,077 Votes

the numbers for the first 3 rounds are fixed so you can just deduct them to the updated Overall number found at the link i gave you....

i hope i'm not making you more confused as you are now....

Date: 2009-10-22 01:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mynameisguess.livejournal.com
ooohooo! thank you for the info! been wondering if arashi was in the lead!

thx to u super happy now! =))

and i will cont voting! +)

Date: 2009-10-22 02:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fox-silly.livejournal.com
Thank u so much sweetheart for ur useful info
Since just few days left, minna-san, plz vote for Arashi-baka-chan, ne
^^
( I just hope they win so that i can watch them more than 1 hour ^^)

Date: 2009-10-22 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nicadj.livejournal.com
oohhh... now at least I know my vote matters. I take the time to vote everyday even if I can't see the result... can't let arashi down~

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Date: 2009-10-22 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heo-sua.livejournal.com
OMG, thanh you so much. I could not remember the total figure before final round so I was like blind. Now I'll be more excited. Thank you :D

Date: 2009-10-22 06:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eroslinx.livejournal.com
Im happy with all the infos posted here,thank you very much! i hope you can post them in http://community.livejournal.com/arashimovement/ as well. Let's keep on voting!!! XD

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Date: 2009-10-23 12:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cassyclim8.livejournal.com
just a quick comment before i go attend to something the whole day so i won't be able to be back here till later tonight.

the schedule of the show looks like it caters to Channel V International. Based on the wiki link of channel listings per country that ai_nino so kindly posted, countries that have that like HK, Malaysia, Indonesia and SG would be able to view it on the said time coz their channel V is Channel V International. now as to the other countries, you might want to check out if your channel v will air it on the same time coz they usually have their own local special shows that might run on the same time as that of the BOP results....

ok i may have not explained it well. i'll be back later to

Date: 2009-10-23 12:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cassyclim8.livejournal.com
*i'll be back later to shed more light to this should there be any questions.... sorry have to go! heehee

Date: 2009-10-23 08:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] helios-blue.livejournal.com
wow such a detailed information about BoP 0.0
thanks for the hard work!

i've been voting daily too, let's not let arashi lose in this!
i'm also one of those who won't be able to watch the result show in Nov 2nd
why oh why they have to air it on monday and not on weekends?
i hope they're gonna repeat it on the week's end too or i won't be able to watch at all... -_-
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