[identity profile] renge-kun.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] arashi_on
Hi everyone, I've got a little announcement that may be interest to some of you.  I have recently learned the sad news that fansubber [livejournal.com profile] newshfan will be closing her site for good on October 1st.  Unfortunately, it's the unscrupulous-fan-uploading-to-streaming-sites pattern, which is just upsetting.  [livejournal.com profile] newshfan is a longtime Johnny's fan and subber.  I got to know and love her work through my former NEWS obsession.  She has contributed literally hundreds and hundreds of subbed clips to the fandom.  While she mostly focuses on groups other than Arashi, she has subbed a plethora of Arashi clips (or clips of other groups that include small Arashi appearances), including ones you may have already seen  - Nino & Sho's surprise appearance at a NEWS con MC, Tegoshi on VSA, etc. 

I encourage everyone to A) go to her lj and click the Arashi tag while you still can -  I've been an obsessed Arashi fan for a year and a half now, and there are dozens and dozens of their clips I haven't seen, not to mention all the the other groups' clips.  And B) thank her profusely for her contributions!  Not only is she a fantastic and prolific subber (like Arashi fandom's Becky at [livejournal.com profile] taijiprojectsub, she does the entire subbing process all by herself), but she's such a sweet person.  It's sad to see her go. teardrophearts

Date: 2010-09-25 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nekonekorocketo.livejournal.com
awww.... T_____T i reaaaaally hope that she'll not delete her lj account. there are still so many vids that i need to dl @ her lj..
owh btw, u're listening to scary/sexy song on the Maou soundtrack?? lol!! xD
what song is that??

Date: 2010-09-25 04:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nekonekorocketo.livejournal.com
souka.. wah!! i guess u're rite cuz that song does sounds scary & sexy. xD
heheee.. but my most fav. songs of Maou ost would be Lucifuge, Satanachia, Lucifer, & Live/Evil they're such a coooooool songs. (^o,^)

Date: 2010-09-25 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nekonekorocketo.livejournal.com
tooooootally agreeeee!! (^o,^) Sawano Hiroyuki
is a genius composer. i never get tired of
listening to Maou ost over & over. ^__^ + the
dorama is so~ cool too (even though i dun really like the ending. T__T)

Date: 2010-09-25 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nekonekorocketo.livejournal.com
yup. Sawano Hiroyuki. ^__^ heheee.. it's okie. u really dun hv to thank me.
owh, maybe can get Toma icon @ my lj. anyway, ur icon is sooooo cute!! <3 is fish/fishing?? lol!! xD i heard that Toma learn some fishing techniques from riida for his role in hanamizuki xD

Date: 2010-09-25 05:32 pm (UTC)
ginger001: (sho)
From: [personal profile] ginger001
For what she said, it seems she will delete the journal. She said something like in October 1st it will be deleted and all gone.

However she encouraged to take all we want and share it with other fans.

I don't know the exact reason why she is totally leaving the fandom, but recently she did have problems with people not following the rules she had about sharing Ryo's drama Joker subtitles. She had them so very fast!!!

She has so many things subbed that I'm so impressed and thankful! It's a pity really! :(

Date: 2010-09-25 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kittyjack32.livejournal.com
Huh, she subbed Arashi clips. Last time I spoke to her, she said she thought the only useful member of Arashi was Matsujun and that she's only interested in them for some of their old good songs.

Not trying to start anything, but that's what she said, so I'm surprised.
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Date: 2010-09-25 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kittyjack32.livejournal.com
Like I said, I wasn't trying to start anything. I was just surprised since she badmouths arashi fansubbers as well. It was the main reason I stopped going to her page.

Sorry if it offends anyone, but I've never dealt with a more unpleasant fansubber. In the end, yes, I'm sorry this is happening because of people breaking rules.

Date: 2010-09-25 05:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cynicalsnark.livejournal.com
If it's worth anything I agree with you, since I thought she was pretty rude to people. I mean hey, if I think she's bitchy then I'm not gonna take subs from her, but I just wanted to let you know it's not just you. Like when she badmouths the members, (like saying Nino's fake, Ohno's "useless", Sho tries too hard to be "smart", well then whatever (I don't quite understand why she subbed things about subjects she disliked so much and then stuck her comments about them). But when you start talking shit about the people who also fansub like you, or rely on you for downloads (but don't break rules), well then that's where you cross the line.

I'm also not trying to start shit, but I'm just saying that's my impression of her, and I'm not altogether sorry that she's gonna close up. Of course it sucks for those who relied on her for subs that she's closing down because people broke rules, but I don't think it's a huge loss for the Arashi fandom at least.
Edited Date: 2010-09-25 05:47 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-09-25 05:55 pm (UTC)
ext_390811: (Default)
From: [identity profile] mintceres.livejournal.com
I don't quite understand why she subbed things about subjects she disliked so much and then stuck her comments about them
THIS!

I'm not altogether sorry that she's gonna close up.
and this.
Being rude to other subbers (as I concluded from the comments here) or being rude to people in general because of some idiots not being able to read rules does not solve anything. Talking to the uploaders in such a way does not scratch them in any way. I tried 'talking' to them, which led to changed or deleted comments, and to blocked IP-adresses What I want to say is that her attitude was not the nicest.

Also, I just express my opinion here.
Bad for those who relied on her.

finally...
but I don't think it's a huge loss for the Arashi fandom at least.
*agrees* Some of her subs are minor, and luckily most (if not all) fansubbers in the sparkling fandom are really nice :D

Date: 2010-09-25 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kittyjack32.livejournal.com
Exactly. I didn't really want to cite particular comments she's made, but criticizing your fellow fansubbers for locking up their subs, or making the fans give "an arm and a leg" to get at her subs.

I mean, honestly, I'm pretty understanding with some but saying that, keeping her journal free-for-all, and allowing people to stream and then complaining when her subs are uploaded doesn't really get my sympathy button pressed.

I hate that there's all this mess because of streaming and whatnot, but in this scenario, I don't want to be a hypocrite and pretend I'm not relieved to see her and her negative energy go.

Date: 2010-09-25 07:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hanimstarz.livejournal.com
lol. ur icon ftw!!!!! HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

Date: 2010-09-25 11:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kittyjack32.livejournal.com
Ah, I only just realised the ambiguity of my statement. Huh random. I meant that she criticized arashi subbers for making it hard for fans to access their subs when the whole reason for her leaving is because some random people couldn't keep the subs to themselves, which is what fansubbers usually work so hard to protect.

Date: 2010-09-26 06:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cease11.livejournal.com
Lol. I don't download from her LJ, being a KAT-TUN and Arashi fan.
That way I won't have to read her comments and she's free to say whatever she wants.

On the uploading issues. It's dangerous for subbers when people don't follow the rules. I totally understand why some Arashi subbers monitor access to their subs.

Date: 2010-09-26 04:52 pm (UTC)
ext_390811: (pwned)
From: [identity profile] mintceres.livejournal.com
complaining when her subs are uploaded doesn't really get my sympathy button pressed.

I lol'ed so hard at that XD

btw, totally agree with you here.

Date: 2010-09-25 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kawaii-solemia.livejournal.com
Well said, Puffy-chan!! ^^ *Sara-chan loves her Puffy Puffy~♥*

Date: 2010-09-25 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nekonekorocketo.livejournal.com
yep! she subbed some of Arashi clips (well mostly old clips) + other clips from j.e idols like news, tokio, j.e jr.. etc.. there are lots of cool clips @ her lj.

Date: 2010-09-25 04:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hibinoasami.livejournal.com
i thought she said it before that she loves Arashi for their songs?
well i dont know much but i'm quiet thankful she subbed it tho.

Date: 2010-09-25 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yayhooraywoohoo.livejournal.com
Yeah, I just went to her Arashi tags and it was just kind of. Huh. All the comments she was making on them.
But I'm very sad to see her go because I like NEWS as well and she's subbed so many things of theirs, and we need fansubbers and it's horrible that people can't follow the rules after being told so many times...

Date: 2010-09-26 07:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] delirioustk.livejournal.com
ah! i <3 your icon!! :))

*sorry for being so random..haha*

Date: 2010-09-26 09:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yayhooraywoohoo.livejournal.com
It's an amazing icon, I can't bring myself to change it Image

Date: 2010-09-25 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asweetsymphony.livejournal.com
Exactly... -.-

She was rude about her opinions but hey- it's a free world (well at least free internet wireless world).


I don't really think the Arashi fandom will miss her but I do feel for NewS fans. From what I heard, she's one of their major subbers. Good thing I'm not really interested in NewS.

Date: 2010-09-25 04:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swsgsl.livejournal.com
i just went over and i saw her post too. i'm totally saddened ): and she didn't allow comments to be made for that post too, which meant she is really firm on deleting the lj. ): ): ):

Date: 2010-09-25 05:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexxasick.livejournal.com
she did sub some arashi clips

she is kind of extreme in the way she thinks but she is one of the major contributors to those, like me, who cannot understand japanese, I'm really sorry people cannot follow rules they spoil the fun for everyone who does -_-

Date: 2010-09-25 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juchi-kazunashi.livejournal.com
even though I haven't downloaded videos from her before (and I'm a former KAT-TUN's fan and I watch NEWS a very little bit), but when I went to her journal now and went to Arashi's category, I was reading not just such comments about Arashi, but KAT-TUN also!

I don't wanna start a thing, but I was just saying my opinion.. but after all, I just wanted to download the Johnny's countdown 2009-2010, which I haven't found anywhere else

Peace! ^^v

Date: 2010-09-25 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danni14nino.livejournal.com
This is more of a big loss to the Johnny's fandom as a whole than just Arashi. newshfan is one of the first subbers I knew when I got into the fandom and I for one am very sad to see her go as she uploaded stuff very quickly and her subs were excellent.

I'm actually really sad to see her go, in spite of her comments, because like puffymoto said, it's a sign of where the fandom is heading. It was hard enough getting subbed videos three years ago and now it's hard just finding raws. I don't know if it's because new fans (or maybe old fans) don't seem to get that subbers are being very nice subbing and sharing these clips because it's not easy and HELLO, they're not getting paid to do it so seeing someone rip off their work does not make them happy. Next to that, they could get in trouble with Johnny's for doing it. Sorry about the rant, it's just that things like this make me angry.

Date: 2010-09-25 10:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asweetsymphony.livejournal.com
"it's a sign of where the fandom is heading."

When you put it that way, I understand now... -.- I'm honestly scared/irritated of the way Johnny Jimusho has almost completely obliterated Arashi from youtube. I feel like it's a matter of time before they start cracking on other fan shared networks.

But I really have hope that as long as there are fans, this will never happen. :D I've been around long enough that this cycle of losing sources and then people finding other sources happens almost every two years. :P

By the way, I think EVERY fans know that subbing is very HARD WORK. We all appreciate it because without them, fandom would die. But being rude is also not nice. You don't need to suck up to someone who is being rude to you in real life even if he/she is your boss. But anyway, like you, I really hate when others take someone's else hard work or stream it to youtube. It's just not right.

If only Johnny Jim./ Japanese networks stop being so anal and allow subbing videos to make their stars more popular round the world.... -.- (sigh)

Date: 2010-09-26 12:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hwangtinglee.livejournal.com
so sad >.<
i love her work
there are so many things to get
totally bummed right now
i wished she stay around
hate the people who ruined this for the rest of us
thanks to her for all of her hard works

Date: 2010-09-26 01:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nana-komatsu7.livejournal.com
from her journal:
Nino reminds me more & more of Kame the more I see of him (and I don't mean that in a good way! They both seem fake to me... I wonder why I'm the only one who seems to ever think that?! I'm not sure I'll ever understand what so many people see in either of them, but maybe one day I will...?)

sweet, yes.

I feel sorry for the NewS fandom, that's all.

Date: 2010-09-26 04:54 pm (UTC)
ext_390811: (ohno pissed)
From: [identity profile] mintceres.livejournal.com
sweet, yes
haha XD

honestly, why care for subbing something which you dont like?

Date: 2010-09-26 02:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] currycroquette.livejournal.com
I thought there's already a post for this. Double post?

Anyway, hate the drama, but respect the work and effort.

Date: 2010-09-27 10:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mau-viaje.livejournal.com
i'm relatively new to this fandom, so i'm not really oriented with the attitude issues. but i'm definitely thankful for each member of the subbing communities and because of that, i've always stayed faithful to all their rules.
come to think of it, i don't know how i could maintain being a fan, or i may still be a fan, but i wouldn't be able to relate to arashi thoroughly if there are no subbed works. i may have admired them as musicians but subbed works has introduced them to us fans as persons. i'm sure non-Japanese speaking fans could relate to that.

i hope leechers stay away from this fandom or any other fandom. they can't understand that many people are cooperating and working together just to keep this fandom safe and alive.

Date: 2010-09-27 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juchi-kazunashi.livejournal.com
she has gone today, btw.. I wanted to thank her today after I downloaded the Johnny's countdown yesterday because I was really busy to do so, but I didn't find her

Date: 2010-09-30 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saku-chan-desu.livejournal.com
Well Poo, it's not october 1st here and I still needed to download some stuff >_<;. But I do agree with everyone elses comments on the rudeness.

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