[MOD] Some reminders and other things

[acidae.livejournal.com]

THE USUAL

» All birthday-related celebrations must go in the Birthday Masterpost, regardless of what form it takes. Please do not make new posts to the community with them!

» Please follow the rules regarding the size and amount of image previews in your posts! There have been many posts rejected for this particular reason.

» All requests must be made to the Masterpost of Requests and not in the community.

» For everything else, please read the rules to minimize the chances of your posts being rejected; if it was not approved, it is fairly safe to say that it was because you had broken a rule.


GANTZ-RELATED

» If you are planning to or have already posted a report on the Gantz premiere and will be locking it for whatever reason, please make sure to state clearly in the community post how long it will stay public for, and tag it with the *public (temporary) tag.

» All posts regarding writing in to review or request subs for the Gantz movies will no longer be allowed, as there has been a sufficient number of posts that provide comprehensive information on where to write letters to, not to mention a gantz_movies community available for more specific issues.


OTHER

» This is pretty old news, but as I have received a couple of queries regarding the matter: saobang2211 had been banned from arashi_on several months ago for breaking a multitude of rules here in the community, the most serious of which were adding LinkBucks links to her MF mirrors and stealing others' scans. She is still continuing to do so by reuploading scans from places that are both 1) hard to access and 2) prohibit reposting/reuploading in different languages in her own journal and other communities, which I am unable to do much about, but I would like to bring this matter to everyone's attention so you are all at least aware of what is going on.

» This is more of a question than anything else, but I would like to ask for opinions on the growing trend of people only leaving posts on their own journals and communities public for 1-2 days. How do you feel about it? Is this something you feel belongs in the community? Do you think there should be a minimum number (eg. 5) of days before someone locks their posts? (Again, I will not be making any decisions on this any time soon; all I really want to do is get a grasp of how everyone feels about this matter, since this affects the members of the community as a whole.)

Comments

[randamuonnanoko.livejournal.com]

Hello ladies!

I'm only gonna comment regarding, the public post matter. As community maintainers we usually leave the post open for 48hrs, we think two days are ok. In our case the community is open so it's really easy to access the locked files. But the most important thing for us is to share so we'll be paying attention on everyone's opinion.

Mods, thank you so much for your hard work

[hnumo.livejournal.com]

mm.. Actually I still confuse with my opinion about locking post (because I usually didn't lock my post). But I think it doesn't matter. I think they have their own reason.
But maybe if there should be a minimum number of days before locking post, how about 1 week before locking post? (Is it too long?)

[tapsilogue.livejournal.com]

IA about the requests to sub Gantz.

As for the temporarily public posts, I think it's up to the OP if they want to lock the post after 2 days, it's their journal after all. As long the content is relevant to the community, I think those types of posts are still acceptable. Some may argue that 2 days is a little too limited, but I think as long as they inform us that it'll be public temporarily and tag it properly, there shouldn't be any reason to disallow it.

Thanks for your work! :D

[luma-chan.livejournal.com]

About the posts being locked after few days matter, I'm a mod at hey_say and we've had polls about the same matter in the community. The system we're currently using that if linking to a post in a personal journal, those posts must be kept open at all times, because it is considered to be a trick to get more people to add you, and also, many people are not comfortable having people they don't know be able to read their private posts just because they'd want to download something they've posted in their own journal. As for when linking to other communities, those posts have to be open for a minimum of 7 days. The only exception to that is subbing communities that can link to locked posts (with instructions of how to join the community) and they usually do monthly updates about their releases rather than posting in the main community with every update. And frankly a system like this has been working very well ^_^

[mystika387.livejournal.com]

I agree with this post! I'm fine with communities that provide opportunities to join the community and download links after the post is locked, but I think that personal posts should be left open, if not forever then at least for a longer time.

[ninomiy4r4shi.livejournal.com]

IAWTC

[tessan91.livejournal.com]

I believe two day of open access is ok.
They probably lock them for a reason and should still be allowed to post in the community.

[kiriezero.livejournal.com]

about the temporary public posts...a minimum of days would be nice ^^ 4-5 days would be a good number :) when it's only 1-2 days and you weren't right there to see it, it's sad when you see the announcement on your frinds page, click the link and it's closed... and we are on different countries so the "open for 24hrs" may not fit everybody's time zone or sometimes you can't tell when it was posted *shrugs*
just my opinion though :P

[matsumazing.livejournal.com]

About the public post, i think it's depends on the owner of the lj/community itself. if they want to open for public for 1-2 days, i think they have the rights to do it. And i'm ok with rules for locking post after only a couple of days. But if they want to open it longer, than it'll be good for people who not really have an active lj, but somehow still want to follow their fandom...

Both ways have its own good and bad, and i guess, sticking to the current is good enough. =]

[inscrupulaties.livejournal.com]

Personally, I would prefer it if people who linked to to-be-locked posts in their journals left it open for more than 2 days (5 sounds good actually) just because the content is basically gone forever afterwards, and it's upsetting. Or if you want to access it, you are forced to friend them and they might not want to friend random strangers who jus want their subs.

With communities, I don't think it matters, because even if they are locked they usually have a membership process and don't involve intrusion onto someone's private journal.

Also, thank you guys for doing such a great job of running this community :)

[http://users.livejournal.com/_monologue_/]

Personally I dislike any linking to locked content or content that will ever be locked, especially if it's to a personal journal and not a community.

[mynamelessname]

I do think that there should be a minimum number of days that posts should be unlocked for links to personal journals. I can understand why people would like to lock their posts, especially if they're posting downloads, but it's really frustrating for people who aren't able to check LJ every day. Communities, if they are accepting new members, could be an exception to this since people can join and see the locked posts without giving up the privacy of their own journal (unlike friending someone's journal in order to see their locked posts).

[soothing-sight.livejournal.com]

I share this position.

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Plus, I would add that I do find 24hrs/48hrs opened posts in private journals unreasonable. Only people logging in on a daily basis, and who have the time to do more than update quickly can access that material.

My rationale being that people post on Arashi_On with the intention to share, so their great hurry to lock entries escapes me. 5 days is more reasonable. 7 even more manageable for busy with RL users.

Thank you for raising this issue, Acidae.

[melodyofmysoul.livejournal.com]

I also agree that there should be a minimum number of days before posts are locked, at least for personal journals. I've experienced missing out on good stuff more than once just because I didn't check my LJ for 3 days in a row.

[justfever.livejournal.com]

I guess the right to locked a post is up to the user/comm, they have their own reasons. But yes, 24hr or 2 days is maybe too short just to imagine if within the limited time a lot of people try to download it all at once, it seems like the traffic is high and so it will be difficult to access it then? I guess it's fairer and more convenient if the time span extended? Well, the uploader can consider this aspect too...(about the traffic).

[tsuriida.livejournal.com]

(Random: OOH. You're listening to 'Owetoriya~' :D)
*is shot*

About the 'public for 24 hours' thing, I think it's really up to the person sharing. I suppose some communities do that to attract members.
BUT STILL, giving us fans who rely on every single media source this community has to offer just... well... 24 hours can be a bit nerve-wrecking. Once you realise that the time period had ended... gah.
It would be a good idea to set a minimum number of days before posts are f-locked.

-Just my humble opinion. :)

It must be hard to be a mod for such a huge community~
My hats off to you. d(^_^)b

[edogawaness.livejournal.com]

I think that the amount of time ppl leave their stuff public is up to them, as long as they've written somewhere how long it'll be open.
...tho I agree that it's frustrating when I can't check Lj for a week b/c of school and come back to find a lot of things already f-locked, but I figure that's mostly my fault anyways.

[hyuuchiha-miki.livejournal.com]

I am alright with the temporary public posts, but my suggestion is that to leave them public at least a week because some people may only come online once a week due to restrictions and stuffs.

[fitrin.livejournal.com]

I might speak for minority here as for me, it will be much convenient if the locked post remain open for a week or less. My reason is the same as the person above me there. Not everyone has the time to check everyday so they might missed the post then. Anyhoo, whatever decision it will be, I will gladly accepted it :))

[mintceres.livejournal.com]

Personally, I do not like to check something on my comms which is linked back to a personal journal and then I see it closed. Sometimes people do not have the time to check LJ in a day or two and then after 2 days the content is locked... maybe 5 days would be a good idea? esp when you consider weekends. Sometimes I do not get on the net for a whole weekend and on free days the numbers of postings are a bit higher than on weekdays.

jsut my two cents

[theahhmoment.livejournal.com]

I'd like to see more locked posts that are 5+ days public. 1-2 days are just WAY too soon! D:

[fly-out.livejournal.com]

me would like if the posts would be open for at least 5 or 7 days....24 h is crazy for normal people, working or doing their studies. It would be nice if this will be considered. Maybe I am not a digital native...I am not checking my mails every single days, sometimes even not once in a week in times when I am veery busy and its really really sad when I am seeing afterwards that a lot of stuff is closed and unreachable forever. And I also dont really want to befriend strangers just for that reason alone.

[rainawallis.livejournal.com]

This is my own personal opinion, but public then private posts are annoying. :P When I do a search on a community and find something I've been looking for, it's extremely annoying to click on the link and then find out that it's been locked. I personally would prefer posts that like remain open permanently or they not be posted at all.

Thanks for sharing

[qlc23.livejournal.com]

OMG! I seriously didn't know saobang2211 was doing that. Even though I'm in college and doing a ton of work, I still try to my comments on other people's LJ. I want thank you guys for sharing the magazines scans, vidoes and other Arashi stuff. I will continue to post more comments at least 2-3 days a week. Thanks for sharing.

[amylia.livejournal.com]

If its a community its okay since you have rules and can join. But to put a post in the community linking it back to their personal journal and then when we go there and found its already been locked, its quite unreasonable I think. What about people who join the fandom late and want to access old files that only they have? Or what about people who only check journal once or twice a month? After all it's a community and we do share things. I think, its not wrong for people who wants to do that for their own reason, but after they locked their journal its better if could they delete their entry in the com so people know that its not accessible anymore. I know I'll be disappointed if I click a link and see access denied to the entry since its been locked already and I don't really want to add people just for the sake of downloading from them. Like the person above said, there are certain people who does this just to add more friends only. That's my two cents. Thank you.

[familytables.livejournal.com]

100% agree with this post.

This part is something I'd like to see put into place. I think, its not wrong for people who wants to do that for their own reason, but after they locked their journal its better if could they delete their entry in the com so people know that its not accessible anymore amylia reason is more than a fair reason for this to be put into place. I hated when I finally got around to giving Arashi my time of day, that I waste time chasing entries that weren't accessible. Just like I hate links to other communities that aren't taking memebers. IT's not that I don't understand why they close memebership, but why "teaste" those not part of your community?

And also if you don't think this is true, you really are joking yourself. Like the person above said, there are certain people who does this just to add more friends only.

[cleotine]

About how long sth should be public...

Recently I've taken up a new job, so most of the time I'm too exhausted or hurried to go online. Which means, I only get the chance to check up on arashi_on once or sometimes twice a week. If a post has been public for only 2 days, it's near impossible for me to be on time. It doesn't matter if I have the possibility to get it at the respected comm but if it's in a journal it usually turns out to be 'gone for good' T_T
I understand though that people lock their entries... still, it's sometimes really sad if I miss out sth...
Maybe if everyone makes the entry in arashi_on a locked post and keeps the main entry open for at least 5 days???? It would help me very much.

[cleotine]

Apparently most of us have the same opinion...

I think luma_chan's suggestion sound very reasonable.

[kanu-x.livejournal.com]

I think its up to the user whether they want to lock their journals or not, and how long they want to keep it public. But some of the previous comments makes a lot of sense. For consideration of people who can't check their lj everyday, maybe a minimun of five days is best.

[yulkin.livejournal.com]

Short open period seems to be more friendly towards fans who are always online, which is truly unfair in my opinion. I mean Internet can be awful sometimes, or you’re deadly ill, or you are sent for work/holydays somewhere with no Internet connection.
I would suggest to gather requests from fans who had missed these posts and later reopen them once again.
But still I think the minimum open time limit for personal LJ entries is only their owner’s business, not ours.

[anixmj.livejournal.com]

About the temporary public posts, I think that 5-7 days of open access would be great.

[yuui1010.livejournal.com]

I think it's really up to the poster if they want to make it public for temporary since we should be grateful that someone share in the first place, I know it's s problem for the other that can't check LJ everyday, but I don't think putting a timeline for temporary-public in the rule will be necessary. At least they should always inform how long will it be open or it'll get a little annoying.
But if we're going to do vote about how long it should be public, 5 days will be enought 1 week is to long.

[oclone123.livejournal.com]

For the temporary posts, I think 7 days is good because it would include a weekend. Sometimes you are unable during the weekday to check LJ or there is only one computer in the house and everybody has to do homework on it.

[partiallyhydro.livejournal.com]

I would really appreciate it if you could make a rule that links outside of the community should be open for at least a week, or what luma_chan said. I've been getting frustrated lately with the 24/48 hr locks since I'm not able to go on this site all the time. I'm not on the computer 24/7 and it would be more convenient for members like me.

[arisa-draconis.livejournal.com]

I'm thinking of a minimum of a week would be reasonable. Unless of course the OP has discussed it with the mod with whatever reason they're holding that they have to close it early. For me, I have always thought that if you really want to share it then you should open it. Eitherwise link it to a community where everyone can join in instead.

PS: On the requests of subbing GANTZ movies, ANM (ao_no_michi) will be working on it as we have stated on our sidebar :) I thought it would be easier if you let everyone knows so no more requests for you to handle :)

Good day to you dear! (And Sho-day if you're still in the 25th on your end of the world :)

[acidae.livejournal.com]

The requests for GANTZ being subbed is not referring to fansubs, but to the official theater release in America since the first movie had been dubbed, and those wanting to watch the second movie in theater does not want that again. They're writing in to the companies in charge of producing and releasing the movies to try and see if changes can be made. Hope that clears things up!

domo^_^

[renadbsk.livejournal.com]

Hii..first of all it's up to the owner of the journal or the community actually since they're the one who put all the hard works and sacrifice their time just to share to us^_^
However, if they can longer the time to download the entry it can be more helpful to those who are bz to check the lj everyday but still want to follow the fandom^_^
Anyway, thank u for reading

[snoew.livejournal.com]

IMO, i think it defeat the purpose after sharing in arashi_on and then private the link on personal lj/comm and worry about privacy. downloaders will be frustrated for the need to join/add various comms/lj, file contributors will be worrying bout privacy and overwhelming respond on the comm n etc.

if the file is just that precious just keep it and share it within own members/friends. but if you are willing to 'advertise' and share it on arashi_on, why not just put the link/post on arashi_on and then tag it as temporary post and kill (or delete or change password) of the download link after a grace temporary period depends on the owner of the files?

[ninoluba87.livejournal.com]

If you really wanna share, then leave it public.
Locking the post is not sharing.

[wasabisushi404.livejournal.com]

I agree! >:O

[ninomiy4r4shi.livejournal.com]

MTE

[ninomiy4r4shi.livejournal.com]

I agree with most of the comments. Sharing is sharing, so... a week or permanent. Mostly permanent.

Permanent would be perfect.

[yuminami.livejournal.com]

Although I'd prefer open posts, I'm fine with OPs locking down what they share, provided that it's after a reasonable amount of time. . . a week or so?

[keiko-artemis.livejournal.com]

Personal views:
This is a community for sharing files, so I guess it would be just right to keep them open for the public since you chose to post in an open community. Yet, if the owner chooses to lock the post, please be kind enough to provide an ample time; a week would do. The rationale for this is that some members can't check their lj on a daily basis.

[chixm8-49.livejournal.com]

Well, after reading the comments, it seems that I have a similar comment regarding to the public posts. :P

Honestly, 24 hours is too short especially when you consider the time differences among countries. Nobody really knows when that 24 hours ends. Normally with that kind of system, one will copy-paste the link and the password for the future usage (because not all people download it on that same day). If one is evil enough, s/he may spread the video to those who weren't able to access that post.

Also, like what people explained from their comments, not all people can go to LJ everyday. Thus, it will be frustrating enough to know when the file that you are waiting for a long time is already locked. You're lucky enough if someone will give you the link secretly or the user him/herself is kind enough to give you the link. Otherwise, you're doomed.

I understand why people locked their posts after a certain number of days. It is a means of security for them. But like some people say, the higher the security, the more people want to break it and screw it off.

I don't mind locking posts in general but think of it this way: Apple company puts newer and a different kind of screws to the iPhones because people keep on opening them. But people weren't discouraged at all and bought screwdrivers in order for them to open their iPhone.

The point? The more difficult you make it for someone to do something, the more they will try to do it. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_technews/20110121/tc_yblog_technews/apple-turns-the-screws)

And sorry for those who might get offended with my comment and this long comment. XDD

[boblemon.livejournal.com]

Sorry, I just wanted to give my opinion on the 1-2 days posts.

Honestly, it's annoying. I'm a member that only checks the community about twice a week, so if there's something I want, sometimes I'm too late to get it in those cases. Although I realize there are problems with legalities and whatnot, I think there should be a minimum amount that a post should be left open (in my opinion a week, but that's not my choice to make). I sort of feel like it's a way to get additional members to their other journals instead of spreading around the Arashi love, which is the goal here, right? So I'd rather have them not post at all rather than only make it available for a short time.

Thank you for caring about this topic (I was considering complaining about it).

[m0uilla.livejournal.com]

Hello! :)

Firstly, thanks for your hard work!

Concerning the 1 - 2 days posts, I won't say it is annoying, because the community gave the best it has to provide us videos / translations / pix / etc. But in terms of convenience, I have to say that it is a little bit hard as for me, a student who's living with a very slow internet connection and got to wait the week end to download things. But anyway, the choice remain to the community and the mods! I won't die if mods want to stay like this! :)

[luv-jdramagirl5.livejournal.com]

well regarding the locking thing, 48 hrs are good but the 24hr ones... I can't be on live journal everyday and I'm pretty sure many other people are like that too. That being the case, sometimes I (we) miss some stuff we really wanted to see or have, be it a show, scans, mp3s, etc...
Other than that, Thanks for the great job Mods!! this is my central arashi fandom gathering place thingy!!

[aishoni.livejournal.com]

hi. just a personal opinion but I find it annoying when news posts are directed to personal journals. comments here are opened but its a turn-off if you have to go to the poster's journal to read the news. it somehow waters-down the community "feel" around here, especially if the news is particularly impressive. there's practically no comments on the news posts... but on the bright side, it might lessen traffic to arashi_on and make it more exclusive.. less headaches i guess.. furthermore, the news posted at said journal doesn't have links to the original source. mods would need to check news source to find if its legit right? so i think making it a rule to link the source for news posts might make a good idea. just my two cents.